HDR News Flash: Catholics Suing Obama Administration


“The Archdiocese of New York, headed by Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C., headed by Cardinal Donald Wuerl, the University of Notre Dame, and 40 other Catholic dioceses and organizations around the country announced on Monday that they are suing the Obama administration for violating their freedom of religion, which is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution. The dioceses and organizations, in different combinations, are filing 12 different lawsuits filed in federal courts around the country.”

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5 responses to “HDR News Flash: Catholics Suing Obama Administration”

  1. neenergyobserver says :

    It’s pretty neat when the Catholic Hierarchy starts acting like Catholics again. Bravo to them.

    • giliar says :

      I agree, NEO. But as I’ve said in the past why did they vote for Obama in the first place?????? I’m a Catholic and I can’t tell you how many of my relatives and friends fell for the “Hope and Change” lie. And every time I’d bring up Obama’s stance on abortion, they would brush it aside. My wonderful aunt goes to Mass every day….voted for Obama. Her response to my Obama abortion stance was “oh honey, they’ve all supported it at one time or another.” So there you have it. But guess what? She’s not voting for him this time.

      • Tom says :

        The following article and segment from it effectively addresses your question, Giliar, about Catholic voting patterns “in the first place”. I hope it will be allowed.

        http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/10/13/pro-life-catholics-for-obama.html

        (NOTE: Please, everybody, note that THIS IS FROM 2008. That means that it directly relates to the PREVIOUS Presidential election, the one we had in 2008, not this one we are having this year, 2012. That means that it would be bad and wrong to say that this is a new article discussing the 2012 election. It is from 2008. The fact that it is from 2008 and discusses that year’s election is a very, very important fact which people should remember as they consider it. I have presented this article from 2008, the time of the previous Presidential election, to help answer Giliar’s question, “[W]hy did they vote for Obama in the first place??????” So PLEASE, remember this as you read the segment below from that 2008 article, as well as the entire article at the link. If this is unclear to any of you, PLEASE, please reply here with your question about this being a 2008 article about the previous election BEFORE spreading it around with the claim it is about this upcoming 2012 election. Thank you.)

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        In a recent statement, “Senator Obama: A Moral Choice for Catholics,” [Duquesne University law professor Nicholas Cafardi, one of the original members of the U.S. bishops’ National Review Board to study problems of clerical sexual abuse] summarized the three most frequently deployed arguments of self-declared pro-life Catholics who support Barack Obama for president.Cafardi summarized the three most frequently deployed arguments of self-declared pro-life Catholics who support Barack Obama for president.

        First, according to Cafardi, Catholics have, as a matter of law, “lost the abortion battle … and I believe that we have lost it permanently.” Second, abortion is not the only “intrinsic evil” of the day; the Bush administration has been guilty of committing acts that are “intrinsically evil” in its policies on interrogation of terrorist suspects, in its failures after Hurricane Katrina and in its detention of terrorism suspects at Guantánamo Bay. Third, Senator Obama “supports government action that would reduce the number of abortions,” including an “adequate social safety net for poor women who might otherwise have abortions.”

        The argument, in sum: the constitutional and legal arguments that have raged since Roe vs. Wade are over, and Catholics have lost; there are many other “intrinsic evils” that Catholics are morally bound to oppose, and Republicans tend to ignore those evils; liberalized social-welfare policies will drive down the absolute numbers of abortions and Senator Obama is an unabashed liberal on these matters. Therefore, a vote for Obama is the “real” pro-life vote.

        NOTE: THIS IS FROM 2008. IT IS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, NOT THIS ONE. PLEASE REMEMBER THIS. THANK YOU.

        Everybody may now return to their Tea Party activities.

      • giliar says :

        Great article! And I suspect Cafardi and the other two mentioned will vote for Obama again, regardless of what’s happened in the past 4 years and the fact that catholic bishops are now presenting a untied front against his policies. Liberals always try to “muck up” the works by making issues more complicated than they really are, even liberals who claim to be “pro-life” but really aren’t. And this part of the article was especially prescient:

        “Many U.S. bishops, in other words, seem exasperated with Catholic politicians who present themselves as ardent Catholics and yet consistently oppose the Church on what the bishops consider the premier civil-rights issue of the day. It seems unlikely that the bishops, having found their voices after discovering the limits of their patience, will back off in an Obama administration—which could raise some interesting questions for, and about, a Vice President Joe Biden, whose fitness to receive holy communion may well be discussed in executive session at the bishops’ annual meeting in mid-November.”

        If they were exasperated then they are mad as H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS now!!!

      • neenergyobserver says :

        Yup, I’m hearing the same thing from my Lutheran friends, although given where I am, not very many did the first time either.

        And your Aunt has a point, most of them have flip-flopped all over the place. Personally, I always thought I looked pretty dumb with my head up my butt and my finger checking the wind but, that’s just me.

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